Balancing the need to drive results with the desire to genuinely care for your people can feel like a tightrope walk. And it’s a challenge many leaders are grappling with today. It might seem like employee wellbeing and a healthy bottom line are competing priorities. And yet the latest data shows that nurturing your team’s wellbeing is the most direct path to unlocking greater profitability.

When I did this interview, I’d never actually met Tris Thorp. Yet from the moment I set eyes on her during our Zoom working calls, I was blown away — smart, funny, beautiful, accomplished, and deeply inspiring. Am I gushing? She also drops F-bombs on the regular, which put the Australian in me at ease right away. Writing my book on burnout, I’ve thought of Tris often. Not only because she went through a burnout herself, but because she took the lessons of burnout to next-l

When I was writing my first book about burnout, I reached out to one of the world’s leading experts to see if he would share his thoughts. I was almost shocked when Dr. Michael P. Leiter responded to my email. Dr. Leiter has published numerous highly regarded articles and books on the topic. The dimensions of burnout he identified together with his colleague Dr. Christine Maslach now form part of the new World Health Organization definition of burnout. Which is about as ex